San Francisco Redwoods emerges as a possibility...

[Nation86]

http://uflaccess.com/uflaccess/san-francisco-redwoods/

I like that choice much more than Rockfish. True to Northern California roots, true to history. The ABA had the Oakland Oaks after all! We will see if this (or California Redwoods which was also trademarked) emerges as the name at 2 PM EST today!

Remember we will have another chat tonight beginning at 9 PM EST.

[Pootingman]

Well, hopefully time will run out before they can change the name to something worse than Redwoods.......Dennis Green has done a wonderful job promoting the UFL, but he's got quite a task ahead of him.....I've never rooted against a team based solely on their nickname, but I gotta feeling that trend is gonna change......I am as excited about the UFL as anyone, but good googly-moogly!

GO SENTINELS! (Dear Lord, please let that name stick)

[Nation86]

I personally prefer the name. It pays homage to Northern California, feels traditional AND strong, should play well in San Francisco with the eco-friendly vibe it gives off, and could lead to a really cool branding decision.

I think, if it proves true, it is one of the stronger UFL names.

[Pootingman]

I envy your enthusiasm, Nation.

[Andy]

So first a stinking little fish and now a tree. Well, those guys really think outside the box...

I'm not going to be surprised when the whole idea behind the NY Sentinels name will be a lighthouse, seriously.

[Nation86]

Keep in mind that the league picked names based off of the owners, fan input, and historical records for the area. Redwood Sequoias are one of the more popular images for northern California - look at the Sierra Club logo or the Stanford Cardinals. I think it sounds significantly better.

Of course that is my opinion - everyone is entitled to their own. I like Sentinels, Tuskers, and Redwoods if those prove to be the names. I am not a big fan of Locomotives. Such is life.

[Fyatuk]

I can go with Redwoods. My brother used to live inside a hollowed out redwood, so I get a kick out of that name. I knew SanFran wouldn't go with a typical name, considering the area, and Redwoods is fine.

Of course, I don't hate Rockfish.

There's also trademark filings for "California Redwoods," so that might be going with a state name as well, which makes little since given that LA is on tap.

I'm not going to be surprised when the whole idea behind the NY Sentinels name will be a lighthouse, seriously.

Giant purple robots! Giant purple robots! Giant purple robots!

[mteeters]

Man, the UFL has totally dropped the ball on branding. These names and uniforms are pretty awful. They're going to have to hit a grand slam on all the logos to save this fiasco.

[Nation86]

I never understand why people declare a name or uniform to be awful across the board when it is an opinion-based decision. I really like Redwoods - it isn't awful to me.

Think about the names for teams that have been around for a while in relatively new leagues - KC Wiz, Chivas USA, Real Salt Lake? All well supported. Oklahoma Thunder with a logo that means nothing? Well supported. Charlotte Bobcats? I despise that name and I am still a fan - other people love the name. That is the nature of the beast.

Regardless I will try to refrain from debating with people today. It is your opinion. I'm just glad we have a damn league to debate.

[Fyatuk]

Man, the UFL has totally dropped the ball on branding. These names and uniforms are pretty awful. They're going to have to hit a grand slam on all the logos to save this fiasco.

Well, in all fairness, the uniforms weren't designed to match the name or team logos (aka, they are league branding, not team branding). The uniforms were designed in advance, which is why they are premiere season only uniforms.

Basically, other than names, we still have zero information on team branding.

But the UFL has seemed to be a bit unstable in their league branding as well.

[mteeters]

All of those names are awful too.

[WvMinersUfl]

Whats the logo gonna look like? A giant tree?

[Fyatuk]

All of those names are awful too.

Locomotives was the only one I really disliked.

Tuskers is a great name from a branding perspective. It'll be remarkably easy to come up with a team identity based on it. Not the greatest name from a "unstand what the hell it is" perspective (but neither is "browns" and several other names in professional sports), but once the logo and branding is released I expect it to be one the strongest brand.

Sentinels I'm alright with. It certainly falls in line with New England Patriots, and takes advantage of the heroistic light shed on FDNY and NYPD from 9-11, etc. I fully expect them to come up with a patriotic theme to go with the name.

Rockfish was mediocre. I mean, it's a crappy football name for most of the country, but I believe it had a chance of working in San Francisco.

Still, Redwoods is a much better name. Yes, it's weird naming a team after plants, but hey, some of those trees are older than Christ. A lot of people go out of their way to see the Redwoods, so it attaches itself to the tourism industry, pushes environmentalism, and has a connotation of strength and enduring legacy. It sounds like a good match for Northern California to me.

The more time I have with them, the more I like the names (again, except Locomotives), especially with Redwoods in the mix. I think they all have outstanding branding opportunities the UFL will do well with.

[Nation86]

I agree with you Fyatuk. I have heard from folks who have seen them that the preliminary logos are strong and I think many of the names offer strong branding - hell, Locomotives which I am not a fan of could have a cool logo.

[smd173]

Sorry, but put me down in the category of people who feel Redwoods is worse than Rockfish. And if you are going to slap California on the name, then just go with California Gold Rush.

As far as logos, I guess they could do a mean looking tree or something.

Of course let the snide comments begin like...if a Redwood falls in a stadium and no one is around, does it make a sound?

[Fyatuk]

I agree with you Fyatuk. I have heard from folks who have seen them that the preliminary logos are strong and I think many of the names offer strong branding - hell, Locomotives which I am not a fan of could have a cool logo.

Yep. I'm with you on Locomotives. I HATE the name (I believe the team will end up permanently referred to as "Vegas" and not by the team name), but it has the potential for a strong branding theme.

[Fyatuk]

As far as logos, I guess they could do a mean looking tree or something.

Why does a football teams logo have to look "mean"?

They don't. They're just a symbol. Look at the Cowboys. They have a very neutral logo with they're star. They pulled that from the Texas flag. Not exactly a terrifing image.

Chicago, Green Bay, etc, use stylized text as their logos.

You don't have to have your mascot in a mean looking pose to have a logo.

[Nation86]

A football team does not have to have a mean looking logo - it represents San Fran well. I'm fairly positive they are going with SF over Cali.

[JFL]

Why dont they call themselves the SF hippies

[FootballGeek]

Why does a football teams logo have to look "mean"?

They don't. They're just a symbol. Look at the Cowboys. They have a very neutral logo with they're star. They pulled that from the Texas flag. Not exactly a terrifing image.

Chicago, Green Bay, etc, use stylized text as their logos.

You don't have to have your mascot in a mean looking pose to have a logo.

Don't forget the Jets, Giants (who both used modified versions of the logos they wore in the late 60's-early 70's), Steelers (they have used that logo for forever), Browns (just a helmet).

[smd173]

Why does a football teams logo have to look "mean"?

They don't. They're just a symbol.

Well you do make some valid points. Certainly not all logos are mean/tough, even when they probably could be.

I guess I'm just not enthralled enough with trees for a team name, that I felt they'd need to do "something" with it.

Maybe I'm starting to succumb to the evil sounding names and logos of the UNGL. :D

[iainoc]

hi everyone. I'm an Irish football fan that has been following the emergence of the league for almost two years. I'm pretty excited about this thread because Redwoods was a name i entered in the Name the Team contest on the UFL website for San Fran (I'm sure there were thousand of others who did the same). Thought it was a good name for a Northern Californian team.

[Fyatuk]

Well you do make some valid points. Certainly not all logos are mean/tough, even when they probably could be.

I guess I'm just not enthralled enough with trees for a team name, that I felt they'd need to do "something" with it.

Maybe I'm starting to succumb to the evil sounding names and logos of the UNGL. :D

Well, like I mentioned, it is weird for a team to be named after a plant, but if you're going to do it, Redwoods is a good one to try (unless you want to try and be cute with something like Jacksonville Beanstalks, I'd love to see that).

And hey, gotta love the painted-by-5-year-old logos :D

[mteeters]

They can modify this for their mascot.

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/ncf/2005/0919/photo/i_stanfordtree_195.jpg

[Nation86]

Actually guys it appears that the team name may well end up being California Redwoods per the latest league newsletter. My guess is that this will keep their options open should San Fran flop and they have to relocate to San Jose, etc.

[dickoon]

Considerably better than Rockfish, IMHO. I agree that trees do not naturally lend themselves to being brands for football teams, but Redwoods are one of the few trees imposing enough to make it work, and the team's association with the colour green backs this up. I have a theory that those who have been to see redwoods in NoCal and know just how impressive the trees in question happen to be will be much more likely to favour the name than those who haven't seen them in person.

We'll see soon!

[ted]

IMO, Redwoods is a great name for an SF team. As a native, I can tell you that it fits the identity of the Bay Area. A lot of people are proud that we have those huge redwoods, and I believe it will appeal to the locals.

[aggiesean]

I actually liked Rockfish. Kind of a neat seafood tie-in to the bay area. Redwoods seems a bit silly. A tree? Why not the San Francisco Streetcars? :)

[smd173]

Actually guys it appears that the team name may well end up being California Redwoods per the latest league newsletter. My guess is that this will keep their options open should San Fran flop and they have to relocate to San Jose, etc.

They have also changed it to say California on the schedule page on the league website.

[Fyatuk]

Actually guys it appears that the team name may well end up being California Redwoods per the latest league newsletter. My guess is that this will keep their options open should San Fran flop and they have to relocate to San Jose, etc.

Which means there should be another new trademark coming up of the letters "C" and "A" with a tri toned curved band, maybe? Might be too late to change that graphic on the uni so they might stick with the SF graphic while playing as CA.

I just don't like having a team named after a state when there's another team there. There are some exceptions (i.e. Texas Rangers), but in general it's annoying as hell.

[Nation86]

Thank you for your input Ted - glad to see a Bay Area native likes the name!

[OBXastronaut]

Hmm. I have to say, I like it too.

[Tank]

Shouldn't a team called the Redwoods have some red in their colors?

[dickoon]

Whisper it, but a California team page (http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/california) now appears to exist, even if nowhere links to it yet. No confirmation of a nickname yet exists.

As it happens, I think California Redwoods happens to be even more euphonious than San Francisco Redwoods, but all this last-minute chopping and changing is the sort of thing to dent my confidence in what's going on ever so slightly. The people in charge have tremendous resumes, will never be able to predict every single speed bump along the way and we're going to have to trust them to make good decisions on the fly, at which so far they've been doing a pretty good job. It's not encouraging to see them have to change the plan so much so quickly already, though.

Incidentally, while California probably is a better brand than San Francisco, it doesn't speak volumes in favour of Los Angeles seeing a team in the near future.

[dickoon]

While we're at it, you can get to team pages for New York (http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/new_york) and Florida (http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/florida) already as well, if you want to. I don't believe they contain great insight or previously secret knowledge, but if you want to spoil yourself then go ahead. :)

[Nation86]

Keep in mind that things always change on the fly - just because we assumed they would be named San Francisco doesn't mean the public writ large had the same assumption. Once the name is announced that is the name period.

[Nation86]

Also Los Angeles is still part of the plan for year two regardless of this name.

[Andy]

While we're at it, you can get to team pages for New York (http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/new_york) and Florida (http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/florida) already as well, if you want to. I don't believe they contain great insight or previously secret knowledge, but if you want to spoil yourself then go ahead. :)

Noticed that the Las Vegas team page isn't updated this way. So UFL folks could you please fix that? Also could you please update the coaches sections? New coaches bios have not been added and suddenly Brian Stewart's bio is up again (it was previously removed when he left to Philly).

[ORtrail]

I'll take Redwoods over Rockfish, and the change to California Redwoods seems to flow better than San Francisco Redwoods.

The logo just needs to be "Redwoods" in stylized letters on the side of the helmets. Or get really crazy and have a tree carrying a football logo. :D

[geb81]

Redwoods is not all that bad. I can see them using the green from the UFL primary colors, at least this year. A redwood is also representative of strength. It is not that unique either. Look at the Stanford Cardinal logo which has a redwood on it. If it is Redwoods, I kinda like it. Let's face it, each nickname will take a while to grow on us so for those of you that are blasting these names, I would suggest that you give it a chance. How do you thhink the Miami fans felt when they found out their team would be called Dolphins or Tampa Bay Bucs fans felt when they first saw those creamsicle uniforms???

[Fyatuk]

The logo just needs to be "Redwoods" in stylized letters on the side of the helmets. Or get really crazy and have a tree carrying a football logo. :D

I just want to see the team make an entrance through a tunnel in the middle of a giant redwood mockup. How fun would that be?

[Andy]

Noticed that the Las Vegas team page isn't updated this way. So UFL folks could you please fix that? Also could you please update the coaches sections? New coaches bios have not been added and suddenly Brian Stewart's bio is up again (it was previously removed when he left to Philly).

Haha, ask and you shall receive, huh? The LV info is up now, including player bios.

[gatek99]

they better have a huge offensive line if they use this as their name

[pahs1994]

Cool i like it. So much for Hartford Oaks tho... lol

[Nation86]

We'll find out for sure at 2 PM EST today!

[randall]

Will California play in "The Forrest"?

[Golds]

lmfao. wow. whoever picks the names should be fired.

[lvrecsports]

Who has the final say on team names? The league or the owners?

[Nation86]

Thank you for your sterling contribution Golds. Most of those based in California have reacted very positively to the name thus far.

The owners had final say on the team name and they're investing millions. You can't fire owners.

[randall]

lmfao. wow. whoever picks the names should be fired.

I thnik the whole UFL creative staff should be fired, but that's just me!

ugly league logo and colors
silly names
weird team uniforms
green stripes on the ball

I think they should be drug tested

[gatek99]

I thnik the whole UFL creative staff should be fired, but that's just me!

ugly league logo and colors
silly names
weird team uniforms
green stripes on the ball

I think they should be drug tested

you want the league logo to be plain and red and blue like every other professional logo?

[Nation86]

No one is forcing anyone to be a fan.

[grm619]

hey nation u said uve talked to people whove seen the preliminary logos right?

do thos preliminary logos have the "official" colors that each franchise will go with AFTER the premiere season and for years to come??

[Fyatuk]

you want the league logo to be plain and red and blue like every other professional logo?

I really don't like the green and blue (in general I don't like that combination), and the askew angle took some getting used to. I could certainly see why someone would prefer something more traditional, and even I think they could have had a better design.

[Nation86]

Yes, grm, color schemes built to last.

[AndyG]

Redwoods is not bad; very N.California . I have never seen the big Redwoods; but I have been to Sequoia National Park and those trees are pretty awesome. But then again for a football team? Oakland Oaks; Portland Timber OK Go Redwoods. How do you design a logo ?
A tree and a football. You have to be very creative. Also you can't use any red in the uniform. I guess their main color will be Green.With Black or blue?

[Sports Fanatic]

That makes for a stupid logo. What a big stupid tree. OOOOO here come the trees!!!

[mlssoccer]

hi everyone. I'm an Irish football fan that has been following the emergence of the league for almost two years. I'm pretty excited about this thread because Redwoods was a name i entered in the Name the Team contest on the UFL website for San Fran (I'm sure there were thousand of others who did the same). Thought it was a good name for a Northern Californian team.


That is awesome, I hope you win!!!!

[SignGuyDino]

I think www.californiaredwoods.com had already been registered long ago. Same with .net

[gatek99]

Yes, grm, color schemes built to last.

do you think vegas will still be silver blue and white or do you think it will be diff

i know if they stick with that the shades will be diff

[Nation86]

Sports Fanatic - it is a reference to heritage and it sounds good. I am not sure where people got this ridiculous idea that team names have to be mean or ferocious. Furthermore if you actually LIVED in California or had viewed a Redwood you would not see it as a big, stupid tree in your words.

Jets, Browns, Ravens, Seahawks, Cardinals, etc. etc. = not ferocious.

[AndyG]

I really don't like the green and blue (in general I don't like that combination), and the askew angle took some getting used to. I could certainly see why someone would prefer something more traditional, and even I think they could have had a better design.

It's funny green and blue has been one of my favorites. Remember the Gunslingers. At first they used a blue jersey with a green helmet.(that was ugly) Later they wore white at home So you had a little green and a little blue and silver pants; which looked good.

[grm619]

well at least thers one thing we know: san fran or california's uniforms r gna be green and blue obviously if u can tell from the website and the colors they hav for the team

[SignGuyDino]

ALL of those birds mentioned are dangerous is you're messing with its eggs or chicks.

[grm619]

i just checked the league site, its official the teams are gna be "California" and "Florida"

[Tank]

That makes for a stupid logo. What a big stupid tree. OOOOO here come the trees!!!

This made me laugh.

I agree with Nation that all team names don't need to be aggressive. That's how we end up with names like Yard Dawgz or Firecats. Redwoods doesn't do much for me, but it doesn't offend me either, which is all you can ask for these days. I still would have gone with Seals. It would have been a perfect fit, seeing as they play in AT&T:

http://z.about.com/d/sanfrancisco/1/0/W/7/-/-/somasealstatue.jpg

[Practice]

i just checked the league site, its official the teams are gna be "California" and "Florida"

I bet signguydino is going to be pissed over that.

[mlssoccer]

i just checked the league site, its official the teams are gna be "California" and "Florida"

That is very smart. I am glad the UFL will do that.

[mlssoccer]

This made me laugh.

I agree with Nation that all team names don't need to be aggressive. That's how we end up with names like Yard Dawgz or Firecats. Redwoods doesn't do much for me, but it doesn't offend me either, which is all you can ask for these days. I still would have gone with Seals. It would have been a perfect fit, seeing as they play in AT&T:


I picked Seals and Sea Lions, somebody mentioned the Seals name was under trademark.

[wideright]

I gotta say I love the name, particularly if they go with California Redwoods. It allows them to play anywhere in NoCal and draw fans from the whole region. I have seen the Redwoods and they are absolutely awe inspiring. And they are a symbol of strength.

Sure, a good looking logo might be tough, and you want to avoid looking too much like Stanford, but I think as a name, this one will resonate with folks in NoCal. It is regional, and something of pride.

And I think the name California works, even if LA gets a team. After all there are 4 NBA teams in Cali and one of them is still called "Golden State". And the Marlins and Rays both play in Florida. Rangers in Texas. It is not unheard of.

Maybe next year they will be the Northern California Redwoods, and they will play the Southern California Suns.

I like the switch. Rockfish was not solid, Redwoods are definitely solid. (of course, next year they will need to add red to their color palette.)

[mlssoccer]

And I think the name California works, even if LA gets a team. After all there are 4 NBA teams in Cali and one of them is still called "Golden State". And the Marlins and Rays both play in Florida. Rangers in Texas. It is not unheard of.

I love state names as opposed to city ones!

[gatek99]

I dont even remember what i picked, but i know for a fact i did not pick any of the 4 that may be the names

[randall]

Florida Marlins will change their name to Miami Marlins when the move to the new stadium

[gatek99]

i just checked the league site, its official the teams are gna be "California" and "Florida"

That is very smart. I am glad the UFL will do that.

where do you see this

and I am not fond of some teams using city names while others use state names, pick one or the other and it will make the league flow better

[SignGuyDino]

First of all, WHERE on the UFL site does it say "California" has been picked?

Second, again, www.californiaredwoods.com has been registered for years. So has www.californiaredwoods.net Unless they paid through the nose to get them it's unlikely they are going with "California Redwoods" unless they're really foolish.

[grm619]

i remember clicking on "teams" at the top of the page and it jumped to the page and it said california, florida, and new york.

they also had a picture of the locomotives jersey and on the bottom "las vegas locomotives"

[Taletripper]

A tie-in example:

On the modern Brewers baseball cap, they have a classic M with a sprig on wheat around it to tie in the beer aspect.

Instead of just letters, or Redwoods or a tree on a helmet, they could put a C, SF, whatever, with a red wood leaf behind it, around it... something like that. Think Toronto Maple Leafs, etc.

[cristane]

Yep, it appears it's gonna be California...

http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/california

Are they serious?

[SignGuyDino]

Ah, I see it: http://www.ufl-football.com/teams


Either they paid through the nose to get www.californiaredwoods.com from a cybersquatter or they're real idiots.

[gatek99]

Ah, I see it: http://www.ufl-football.com/teams


Either they paid through the nose to get www.californiaredwoods.com from a cybersquatter or they're real idiots.

mine still says san fran.....

[SignGuyDino]

Or...it's a real swerve and it's "California" something else...

[gatek99]

ah it only shows up under the vegas page....

[SignGuyDino]

Here is what is on their page now:

http://www.ufl-football.com/content/downloads/CaliforniaTeamName_0/CaliforniaTeamName.jpg

[gatek99]

well imo New York is a state, Florida and Californa.....why the hell did they only leave one city name, they should have just went with Nevada...

[grm619]

yea i dnt get tht either??

wonder if nation knows

[JMadIV]

Redwoods?

terrible. even worse than Tuskers and Locomotives.

what's the logo gonna be, a forest? the mascot? one of the Ents from Lord of The Rings?

UFL is not doing a good job of branding.

[SignGuyDino]

The marketing for "New York" is for a team in New York CITY itself.

For fun, just checked, www.californiarockfish.com unregistered at this moment.

Also, at this moment no new trademark registrations.

Again, given www.californiaredwoods.com was previously registered by someone else, it could be San Francisco Redwoods, or still a total swerve...

[gatek99]

I am going with a swerve....they are going to suprise us with this one

[mlssoccer]

Why does a football teams logo have to look "mean"?

They don't. They're just a symbol. Look at the Cowboys. They have a very neutral logo with they're star. They pulled that from the Texas flag. Not exactly a terrifing image.

Chicago, Green Bay, etc, use stylized text as their logos.

You don't have to have your mascot in a mean looking pose to have a logo.

I agree I wouldnt support mean logos either. Its unsavory. Football is a tremendous sport dealing with team unity.

Some of the greatest names are simple and mild.

[ted]

Not owning californiaredwoods.com is not a big deal. They don't even own ufl.com for God's sake.

[grm619]

i mean just honestly which do u guys like

san francisco redwoods or california redwoods

[SignGuyDino]

www.uflredwoods.com was registered Aug. 6

[mlssoccer]

i mean just honestly which do u guys like

san francisco redwoods or california redwoods

California Redwoods is perfect. The Team can move anywhere in Upper California or Oregon.

[gatek99]

why would you want to team to relocate though....if thats the case they should all be state names....AAFL did a good job with this, minus the no mascot name thing

[TheMac]

Man, the UFL has totally dropped the ball on branding. These names and uniforms are pretty awful. They're going to have to hit a grand slam on all the logos to save this fiasco.

I totally agree that the uniforms are absolutely abysmal. But I DO like the name "California Redwoods." I think that is a major improvement over Rockfish and a good name overall.

Now if they could just get the uniform situation right....wow they are bad.

[SignGuyDino]

If they go with "California" when all along they were talking about how the Niners were moving to Santa Clara and the people of San Francisco deserve football, after all the criticism of not having but two teams in non-NFL markets...they think people are going to ignore all of that?

Not to mention the owner's wife, the freaking Speaker of the House, is FROM San Francisco.

This has to be a swerve somehow...

[jayroc5]

I think California Redwoods does sound a little better. I'm loving the fact that we can finally debate and argue about team names and uniforms because it means that we are getting even closer to an actual kickoff. Btw I like Redwoods better than Locos.

[gatek99]

I think California Redwoods does sound a little better. I'm loving the fact that we can finally debate and argue about team names and uniforms because it means that we are getting even closer to an actual kickoff. Btw I like Redwoods better than Locos.

until they postpone the season the week before kickoff....haha naw I am really excited about how things are moving forward

[mlssoccer]

why would you want to team to relocate though....if thats the case they should all be state names....AAFL did a good job with this, minus the no mascot name thing

Just in case, I am rooting for the UFL to do well. It will be a major test for them in October.

Plus, just observing this board. There is a certain amount of negativity against the UFL.

And the economy also.

[jayroc5]

until they postpone the season the week before kickoff....haha naw I am really excited about how things are moving forward

LOL please don't say that I already survived one postponement I dont think I can handle another year.

[MGB]

:


I picked Seals and Sea Lions, somebody mentioned the Seals name was under trademark.

SF Seals were the old PCL team that Joe DiMaggio played for in his pre-Yankee days. MLB probably has the trademark.

[Nation86]

Bay Area SportsBlog has weighed in on Redwoods (positively):

lease let this be true. On the day that the UFL is scheduled to announce the nickname of San Francisco’s franchise comes the report that the Rockfish may be gutted and replaced by the Redwoods. According to UFL Access, the UFL recently trademarked “San Francisco Redwoods,” perhaps after realizing that, no, Rockfish really isn’t a good idea for a nickname. We certainly prefer Redwoods. The team could even borrow the Stanford Tree as a mascot.

The league also trademarked “California Redwoods,” but the trademarking of a graphical “SF” would seem to indicate that the league will go ahead with the San Francisco moniker. Alternatively, they could be called the California Redwoods of San Francisco. Or the San Francisco Rockwoods. California Redfish? An official announcement is expected at 11 a.m. PST. Stay tuned!

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If this is the name it is a hit with most locals - which is the point.

[dickoon]

There is a certain amount of negativity against the UFL.

Mmm - I think it's more the case that people can be disappointed in some of the UFL's developments, whether they have come as the result of UFL's decisions or circumstances beyond their control, while still (often!) broadly supporting the concept of the league. One doesn't have to be uncritically behind every twist and turn in the UFL's life in order to be a UFL fan.

I think we'd be disappointed by the decision to put the league's identity ahead of the franchises' identities with regards to uniforms if this were the first full season of the league; for a much-better-than-nothing and still potentially great Premiere Season, it will have to do. Will it mean we don't get a full-scale season? Extremely unlikely; at worst, it might be a nail in a coffin, but even that is being pessimistic to a fault. It is disappointing that the venues for a couple of fixtures are still up in the air and the UFL doesn't have the traction to get its first choices every time, but that's the sort of compromise forced on the league as a result of being a start-up on a limited budget.

Despite all this, I have a strong suspicion that the UFL's first little season is going to end up being awesomely fun, even if as frustrating as all get-out in a few little places.

Not long to go now. At what point might we expect to hear the news and see announcements reflected on the web site?

[mlssoccer]

California Redfish

Nation, That is a an authentic name. I prefer that name of all.

California Redfish vs Florida Tuskers........

[mlssoccer]

Despite all this, I have a strong suspicion that the UFL's first little season is going to end up being awesomely fun, even if as frustrating as all get-out in a few little places.

Not long to go now. At what point might we expect to hear the news and see announcements reflected on the web site?

I would hope so. I just perceive some of the Negative comments as people who will not support the league.

Like I have stated before, The UFL is in no win situation. If they go with an NFL theme, people would call them wannabees and copycats.

The UFL goes with its own standards and looks, and it still is frowned upon.

[Andy]

If this is the name it is a hit with most locals - which is the point.

Haha Nation, you were complaining about the 80 voters on the LV poll. How can you now say that it will "hit with most locals"? That's based on what? One bloggers opinion? Isn't that "presumptive" as well?

Just saying... ;)

[Andy]

Mmm - I think it's more the case that people can be disappointed in some of the UFL's developments, whether they have come as the result of UFL's decisions or circumstances beyond their control, while still (often!) broadly supporting the concept of the league. One doesn't have to be uncritically behind every twist and turn in the UFL's life in order to be a UFL fan.

Well said.

[Fez]

I like Redwoods better than "Rockfish" but that's about it. Though a nasty looking Tree-ent (from Lord of the Rings) could be fun.

http://www.freewebs.com/zombie1989/treebeard-action-figure-lord-of-the-rings-return-of-the-king.jpg

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I actually like the name. Fits the area perfectly. But I think they should put a dark red and dark green colors.

[DSPNYD]

I like "Redwoods." I think that a menacing logo can possibly be created, although that may not be what is desired. AT&T Park can be nicknamed the "Forest." Perhaps the ads can go...

"Come see the California Redwoods take the (name the team) out to the woodshed..."

[LAfootballFan]

You would think that a team called California should make a trip to LA for a game here until we get a team!!
Id rather cheer for California than LV.

[newyorkyankeesfootball]

GO REDWOOODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denny Green and Micheal CRABTREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fyatuk]

It's funny green and blue has been one of my favorites. Remember the Gunslingers. At first they used a blue jersey with a green helmet.(that was ugly) Later they wore white at home So you had a little green and a little blue and silver pants; which looked good.

Well, Gunslingers was about 5 or 6 years before I started watching sports. The first season of football I saw was Landry's last.

Theoreticaly, green and blue work as complimentary colors. On the standard color wheel, you are supposed to pair up a color with one next to it, or one directly across from it. For blue, that's green, purple, or orange.

A lot depends on the shades though. I dislike the shades the UFL picked, and in general I think green was a bad choice for a league that will always be compared to something bigger (green has the association with envy).

mine still says san fran.....

You probably have a cache going. Go to the page and hit reload, or alternatively (and more reliable) going into Internet Options, General tab, and hit Delete Files. PS, make sure you don't delete all cookies unless you want to manually log in to each website again.

[gatek99]

I actually like the name. Fits the area perfectly. But I think they should put a dark red and dark green colors.

they would look like christmas

[mlssoccer]

You would think that a team called California should make a trip to LA for a game here until we get a team!!
Id rather cheer for California than LV.

Its quite possible!

[MAVSFAN]

GO REDWOOODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denny Green and Micheal CRABTREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crabtree will not play in the UFL. He'll sign with the 49ers closer to the end of training camp.

[Fyatuk]

Crabtree will not play in the UFL. He'll sign with the 49ers closer to the end of training camp.

If Crabtree doesn't want to be a 49er, there is NO reason for him to go to the UFL. He'd still be the 49ers property.

He'll sign with the 49ers, manage to force a trade, or compelte sit out the season.

[MAVSFAN]

If Crabtree doesn't want to be a 49er, there is NO reason for him to go to the UFL. He'd still be the 49ers property.

He'll sign with the 49ers, manage to force a trade, or compelte sit out the season.

I'd love to see him come home and play for Dallas, but that's unrealistic. I think he signs. He's not going to sit out the whole season.

[Fyatuk]

I'd love to see him come home and play for Dallas, but that's unrealistic. I think he signs. He's not going to sit out the whole season.

I agree. You don't walk away from that kind of money to have nothing for a year. It'd be another thing if there was another league that the player could go to and make comparable money, but Crabtree (or really any exclusive rights player) has basically no real bargaining power.

[MAVSFAN]

I agree. You don't walk away from that kind of money to have nothing for a year. It'd be another thing if there was another league that the player could go to and make comparable money, but Crabtree (or really any exclusive rights player) has basically no real bargaining power.

True. When Bo Jackson sat out a year, he had baseball as a fallback option. Crabtree doesn't have that.

[Nation86]

Andy - I was basing it off of the locals on this site and the blogs. Hypocritical I know. :)