Losman

[AdamDrizzy]

is the man!

[Evad]

He was good once he got into a groove. Good game

[neptunium_X]

The game was better than what I had expected! When Losman calmed down in the second half, and the rushing game helped polish the game...

I'll leave the rest for tomorrow.

[Fez]

This game showed why Losman made the right decision to go to the UFL. He struggled in the first half and missed some WIDE open receivers. Coach Fassel calmly pointed out his technical errors and Losman reacted well and made the changes. He is going to improve. California's QB (Boyd) looked about the same as he did in pre-season. Great athlete but not consistent enough to effectively lead the team. The Redwoods have a good running game, but won't be able to use it unless they get a better QB.

[AdamDrizzy]

did he throw deep...(as in over 65 yards like he did with the bills?)

i didnt watch the 2nd or 3rd

[Footballchick45]

We was better in the second half for sure...clearly the better of the two on the field tonight...

[icedawg316]

This game showed why Losman made the right decision to go to the UFL. He struggled in the first half and missed some WIDE open receivers. Coach Fassel calmly pointed out his technical errors and Losman reacted well and made the changes. He is going to improve. California's QB (Boyd) looked about the same as he did in pre-season. Great athlete but not consistent enough to effectively lead the team. The Redwoods have a good running game, but won't be able to use it unless they get a better QB.

I agree Losman was so sloppy, fumbled some times, and just made bad throws.. I really thought he was going to get pulled. But I guess he put it together and had a solid game, I still think Rattay will be a better UFL prospect

[johndelv]

Losman was a little sloppy in 1st half, so what ,it was the 1st game, nothing negative should be associated with this game except attendance, play was very good, much better than xfl ever was, this league is legit, and I have seen them all, WFL,USFL,CFL AMERICA,WLAF, XFL, this will beat them everyone of them.

[Rocano]

Losman sucked so bad I cant believe he won the game. His running game won the game for him.

[WvMinersUfl]

He sucked so bad with 2 td passes. Yep he is horrible. Personally I didnt think he was over impressive looked rusty at times. But he wasnt horrible out there.

[johndelv]

GOD please let's all stop the negativity, it was the 1st game, if you don't have anything good to say don't. Losman did not suck, except for 1 fumble, all was well, Do you people expect NFL level of play after 1 week? If you do you are looking on the wrong night.

[icedawg316]

he fumbled twice actually... Rattay > Losman

[LosmanFan7]

I think JP did a pretty good job considering that it was his first game in a while and with his new team. Once Fassel talked with him he did really great. Overall a good game for Losman.

[UFLFan85]

Rattay would've had 350 yards and 5 tds

[Rocano]

I still hate Losman

[icedawg316]

I think Rattay would have had the best game, and I'm being honest here. Losman played very well and more than likely will get an NFL job in 2010 even as a number 2 QB if he keeps playing well

[murrayyyyy]

Did anyone actually goto the game and watch warmups? Rattay didn't look good at all. Losman should have been the QB.

[MrX303]

I'll bet Losman ends up with the Raiders when the UFL's season ends.

[Rocano]

Did anyone actually goto the game and watch warmups? Rattay didn't look good at all. Losman should have been the QB.

he was the QB as well.

[icedawg316]

Did anyone actually goto the game and watch warmups? Rattay didn't look good at all. Losman should have been the QB.

he's an in game kind of guy :p

[murrayyyyy]

he was the QB as well.

Yeah, the point was if you watched them running reps before the game it was pretty clear who would be the starter. Rattay didn't have near the arm on a deep ball or the accuracy that Losman did before the game.

[icedawg316]

Losman accuracy? that's rubbish

[murrayyyyy]

He was high on all his passes in the first half but he did a better job of throwing on soft covers 2's than Boyd did.

[Rocano]

Well Boyd had a better dance

[johnlt1]

I think buffalo's performance explains itself Peyton Manning could'nt get a fair shot playing there. So giving JP grief from anything that happened with that team is weak. give the offense time we have some good personel Retay would not faired any bettor.

[icedawg316]

I think buffalo's performance explains itself Peyton Manning could'nt get a fair shot playing there. So giving JP grief from anything that happened with that team is weak. give the offense time we have some good personel Retay would not faired any bettor.

Peyton Manning is so good the Bills would be in the playoffs, the Bills were a middle of the road team (6-9 wins) during Losman's time there and he still didn't play all that well.. and lost his job to a rookie 3rd round pick.

[Nation86]

I don't know where your hate for Losman came from but he looked good last week and is talented, period.

[murrayyyyy]

I don't know where your hate for Losman came from but he looked good last week and is talented, period.


Backup QB is always the most popular guy. WE will see how he looks this week. No reason for nerves/high passes anymore.

[Rocano]

I don't know where your hate for Losman came from but he looked good last week and is talented, period.

If he was "talented period" he would have got the starting job in Buffalo. I really hate him. I just think he thinks he's the best QB because he was starting QB on an NFL Team

[icedawg316]

I don't know where your hate for Losman came from but he looked good last week and is talented, period.

partly because he is starting ahead of Rattay, who I really like, and also because people are saying he's the face of the UFL..watch his Bills games, at times he was worse than Edwards. He got hot last week I'll give him that, but he did fumble 2 times in 3 plays and looked very sloppy. I'll wait and see for the rest of the season

[UFLFan85]

Losman's accuracy better than Rattay? Are you kidding me? Rattay doesn't have a stronger arm than Losman, but he has WAY better accuracy, more so than a lot of starters in the NFL. With the 04 niners he completed 60 percent of his passes, not many QBs could have done that with that team.

Losman's strengths are aggressiveness (which could - and have - got him in trouble) and arm strength. He's like a shorter, less talented, but faster version of Vinny Testaverde. I remember one year Vinny had like 30+ interceptions... that's because he's aggressive and has a big arm. Losman will always be prone to major errors because of this. Plus, he was prone to some pretty big errors in his day, am I wrong?

Now, if you make a switch to Rattay you get a smarter, more accurate QB who makes his reads much quicker. Rattay also has decent legs. I'm pretty sure one of the reasons Rattay is in this coach/player role is because of his understanding of offenses and the opposing defenses... so he can help Losman out.

When you look at the two's NFL background, there's a pretty good reason why Losman isn't a starter anymore. And really no answer to why Rattay isn't at least on a roster somewhere. Two different QBs, but if Losman ends up being awful, those things he's terrible at will be things that Rattay excel at, and the things that make Losman attractive (the big arm) isn't a huge loss because Rattay has an NFL arm too. So, you kinda know what you get with Rattay but teams will always give that big arm guy a shot... look at Derek Anderson. He keeps getting shot after shot, went to the pro bowl one year because of his big arm, but if he doesn't have a lot of talent his lack of reading the defense/accuracy/etc etc shows. Same with Losman.

[icedawg316]

^^ right on brother. Want to start TimRattay.com? lol

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/12/31/2003504011.jpg

[Rocano]

^^ right on brother. Want to start TimRattay.com? lol

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/12/31/2003504011.jpg

OOH Real Rattays wife will be maaaaaad

[murrayyyyy]

Losman's accuracy better than Rattay? Are you kidding me? Rattay doesn't have a stronger arm than Losman, but he has WAY better accuracy, more so than a lot of starters in the NFL. With the 04 niners he completed 60 percent of his passes, not many QBs could have done that with that team.

Losman's strengths are aggressiveness (which could - and have - got him in trouble) and arm strength. He's like a shorter, less talented, but faster version of Vinny Testaverde. I remember one year Vinny had like 30+ interceptions... that's because he's aggressive and has a big arm. Losman will always be prone to major errors because of this. Plus, he was prone to some pretty big errors in his day, am I wrong?

Now, if you make a switch to Rattay you get a smarter, more accurate QB who makes his reads much quicker. Rattay also has decent legs. I'm pretty sure one of the reasons Rattay is in this coach/player role is because of his understanding of offenses and the opposing defenses... so he can help Losman out.

When you look at the two's NFL background, there's a pretty good reason why Losman isn't a starter anymore. And really no answer to why Rattay isn't at least on a roster somewhere. Two different QBs, but if Losman ends up being awful, those things he's terrible at will be things that Rattay excel at, and the things that make Losman attractive (the big arm) isn't a huge loss because Rattay has an NFL arm too. So, you kinda know what you get with Rattay but teams will always give that big arm guy a shot... look at Derek Anderson. He keeps getting shot after shot, went to the pro bowl one year because of his big arm, but if he doesn't have a lot of talent his lack of reading the defense/accuracy/etc etc shows. Same with Losman.

Amazing. You found one year that Rattay was over 60% in completion percentage. He constantly threw passes to his tight end that year. Guess you ignored the 11 fumbles he had in those 9 starts that year.

Losman 2006: 62.5% 2007: 63.4% 2008: 60.6%. I think his passes went a little deeper than to the tight end also. Numbers are fun, aren't they...

Rattay's "legs" got him all of 77 yards in his 8 season in the NFL. Losman 489 in 5 years. Guess it's another of those number things that just doesn't translate for your argument.

You would think a guy with Rattay's "talent" would have gotten more than 18 starts over a 7 year career in the NFL or even made a roster last year. I'm not bashing the guy, I just don't see the same things on the field or in the number that you do.

While I'm not high on Losman, he has been in the league more recently, is 4 years younger, and contrary to some beliefs is a better runner and just as accurate of a passer. Also by your own admission Losman has more arm strength.

[icedawg316]

Rattay was behind a pro bowl QB in Garcia and then was thrown onto an awful awful 49ers team in 2004 that lost like 7 or 8 starters on offense. Since then he was traded when he shouldn't have been, wasn't given a fair chance in Tampa and has bounced around a bit. I don't think he was ever given a fair legit chance to start in the NFL.

Losman was sloppy in Buffalo and at times was so mediocre he lost his job to a 3rd round pick in Trent Edwards whose just as Raw. I'm a little biased here being a 49er fan, but the guy to me is better than Losman career numbers aside

[LosmanFan7]

Amazing. You found one year that Rattay was over 60% in completion percentage. He constantly threw passes to his tight end that year. Guess you ignored the 11 fumbles he had in those 9 starts that year.

Losman 2006: 62.5% 2007: 63.4% 2008: 60.6%. I think his passes went a little deeper than to the tight end also. Numbers are fun, aren't they...

Rattay's "legs" got him all of 77 yards in his 8 season in the NFL. Losman 489 in 5 years. Guess it's another of those number things that just doesn't translate for your argument.

You would think a guy with Rattay's "talent" would have gotten more than 18 starts over a 7 year career in the NFL or even made a roster last year. I'm not bashing the guy, I just don't see the same things on the field or in the number that you do.

While I'm not high on Losman, he has been in the league more recently, is 4 years younger, and contrary to some beliefs is a better runner and just as accurate of a passer. Also by your own admission Losman has more arm strength.

Yeah, I guess the Rattay fan neglected to look at JP's stats. JP was the 11th best rated passer in 06, his first and only full year of starting due to having a coach who is prone to switching QB's midseason.

[icedawg316]

has Losman ever had a 400 yard game? I think not

[tuskerjoshvt]

^^ right on brother. Want to start TimRattay.com? lol

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/12/31/2003504011.jpg

Dude that guy is dumb. She likes football and she is cute? Seriously get with the program bro! :p

[lasvegasoutlaws]

The difference between fantasy football & REAL football play on the field is all too obvious here. [shakes head]

All I see are some Keyboard Kommandos looking at stats only to determine whether Losman or Rattay should start.

CLUE: BOTH will have subpar performances in the UFL as long as they have a subpar offensive line.

Florida exposed the many weaknesses & shortcomings of LV's offensive line. OT Jason Capizzi is a disgrace to all offensive linemen everywhere, and why is OG Martin Bibla still on the roster? He puts more effort into his tattoos than he does with any semblance of work ethic he might have once possessed.

The Locomotives ran the ball fairly well, but when it came to 3rd down & they were forced to pass, they couldn't convert because the QB wasn't getting any protection. To add insult to injury, instead of using 3-step or the occasional 5-step drop, Fassel had Losman continually dropping back 7 steps & had the WRs running 10- & 15-yard routes when they only needed 3-5 yards for a first down!!! WTF, OVER?!?!?!? Instead of compensating for the lack of protection & running quick slants & outs, NOPE, the Locomotives went for the long completions which were disastrous.

What's worse, Florida would rush their base 4 D-linemen, and STILL the Vegas O-line couldn't handle the rush!! So they had to keep their RBs & FBs back for pass protection, negating any effective dump-offs & enabling the Tuskers to keep their maximum number of defenders in the secondary for pass protection.

Vegas' struggles have NOTHING to do with the QB; Rattay makes NO DIFFERENCE in this matter. The piss-poor O-line & stupid play-calling are what's killing the Vegas offense.